To whom it may concern.

Dear Friends in the expose of all the lies around Sai Baba!

Since I have noticed that a letter about Dr. Hislop is moving around within and without the Sai organization, saying that he did not know what was going on with Sai Baba and the students regarding sexual molestation, I can only tell you my story where Dr. Hislop was involved, for you to decide for yourself what is true or untrue.

I was Maharishi's secretary during 1973.  I did not know Dr. Hislop then; I heard about him from a letter which came to Maharishi from Dr. Hislop, saying that he could not stay in the TM movement because now he had met God in the form of the Avatar of Sai.  He therefore declared he was leaving the Maharishi and the TM movement.

Maharishi, having been Dr. Hislop's first teacher in the Western world and having employed him as secretary for a while, was saddened and asked me to write him a letter telling him about the beautiful things that were going on in the TM movement and that he, Dr. Hislop, had his natural place in this.  He also asked him not to follow this new master of his because he was NOT the avatar at all, he was told he was following a dark path now.

I, who wrote the letter, was very surprised by Maharishi's prompt answer to Dr. Hislop but could only write what I was told by my master.  I had never before heard anything about this Sai Baba, so I thought he was no more than a common Indian guru fooling his devotees, and I forgot about everything after sending the letter.  Dr. Hislop was not heard from again and I forgot about him too.

Ten years later, I had long since left Maharishi and found Sai Baba as my God and Avatar and was fully devoted to him in all ways.  Then I met Dr. Hislop, as the leader of the U.S. Sai organization, when I was in Puttaparthi - I think this was 1983.  I was invited to come and tell my life story, which had become popular among Sai devotees, to his group visiting Puttaparthi.  He had noticed that I was having very many interviews with Sai Baba, both private and with my group.  I had already during this journey had about five interviews, and more were to come.

After hearing my life story, he told me that he was that particular Dr. Hislop to whom Maharishi sent the letter 10 years earlier, and we fell in each other's arms praising the Lord Sai's skill in planning his mission for us for so long - as we believed.  After the meeting for devotees he asked me to stay with him and then he asked me why Sai Baba had so many interviews with me.  Since I thought then that everything Sai Baba was doing with me was divine, I told him the whole story about the sex we had (through Sai Baba’s wishes not mine):  oiling, masturbation, and oral sex, etc.  I saw in his eyes he was shocked, and he also told me that this was something he had to talk to Sai Baba about.  We left each other, he shocked and I not knowing what I had caused in him, since I believed the actions to be divine and was thinking that I had done no wrong by telling him.

It took one day for Dr. Hislop to get himself invited for lunch with Sai Baba – and out he came faster then ever, since he had brought up this question with Sai Baba about his sexual interest in me.  We all knew Dr. Hislop as a sincere seeker who wasn't going to stop his investigation, and he didn't.

Once more he talked to me about it and then he told me that when he brought up the question with Sai Baba, Baba had answered him: "This is not for you, you don’t understand the divine."  When he further asked Sai Baba, he was asked to leave and was thrown out of the room.  Sai Baba had been very upset with him, he told me.

Since I now had, in childlike fashion, shared all my experience with Dr. Hislop around Sai Baba's sexual play with me, it was absolutely clear to him what was going on.  He even asked me if I enjoyed it.  I told him NO; these were Sai Baba's acts, not mine.  He asked me if I had ever felt any improvement in my life-force or Kundalini, and I told him No.  Sai Baba wanted to do this with me and I let it happen because he was my God; I never at that moment questioned this God.

We never came to talk about this more and we left Puttaparthi.

What he made out of this knowledge or what he denied about it, is his business.  I told him about the sexual abuse as it was, and it could not have been understood in any other way than sexual abuse; and for that reason he was shocked the first day I told him.  If he later denied it, this is then the same as with all the Sai leaders and deniers within the Sai organization.

It wouldn't help if Sai Baba was raping us in public, they would still believe it to be divine since they don't want to lose their faith.  We can't win over stupidity, we have to leave it and move on.

So to the question whether Dr. Hislop was aware of the molestations of Sai Baba, the answer is very much YES.  Anyone saying anything else is a liar, but what more could we expect from these people who choose to follow a teacher who has been lying all his life about himself, from day one until now.

Yours sincerely,

Conny Larsson
Former devotee